THREE DAYS LEFT!

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THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby hsymolon » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:30 am

Until registration ends! Don't be left out in the cold.
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby gill » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:03 pm

Is there a way to see if we're registered? I didn't see the usual list, and just wanted to double check.
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby Schmidtc » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:15 pm

On that page you registered....click that list icon next to the pencil and shopping cart icons: http://leagues.afdc.com/leagues.

It takes you here: http://leagues.afdc.com/leagues/partici ... 3b77000000

NOTE, you must log in to view the participants.
You know, for kids!
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby erccarp » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:35 pm

Why do we need to log in to see if we have/ who has registered?
Can this be changed in the future?
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby paul » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:54 pm

Eric, goalty season hasn't started yet. Don't worry, you'll have plenty of time to complain. :D
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby Schmidtc » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:57 pm

This would be a suggestion to pass on to Pete, master of the webz, so that he can include it as an action item to investigate for the future. It will be prioritized among other items.
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby peteholiday » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:18 pm

erccarp wrote:Why do we need to log in to see if we have/ who has registered?
Can this be changed in the future?


This is intended behavior. The reason for it is simple privacy. Non-AFDC members don't need to see who is registered for our leagues, nor do search engines or other web archiving entities.

Now that the leagues page remembers you when you log in, this should be a really minor deal.

Is there a reason why you think this info ought to be made public?
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby brainwater » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:43 pm

Personally, I like the new league page and registration. It seems more up-to-date than the previous.

Good job, Pete. But still War Damn Eagle!
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby paul » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:51 pm

But now you have to log in to know what team you're on!
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby nicemlt » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:39 pm

paul wrote:But now you have to log in to know what team you're on!


It's like unwrapping your present on XMas morning!
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby erccarp » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:54 pm

Well first i think logging in is a pain, especially from a mobile device. Secondly I know that prior to a draft I might check out another city's league page and rosters/rankings if I'm trying to figure out if a new-to-town player is worth a late round pick. If that other city's league page block access to rosters i'd be pissed. So why not think about people in some other city searching for a transplanted AFDCer in their draft research.

If membership were voicing concerns about privacy and the public rosters then fine. But if we're fixing a 'problem' that doesn't exist and creating an inconvenience to members and potentially others than maybe consider changing it back.
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby spamwater » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:32 pm

erccarp wrote:Well first i think logging in is a pain, especially from a mobile device. Secondly I know that prior to a draft I might check out another city's league page and rosters/rankings if I'm trying to figure out if a new-to-town player is worth a late round pick. If that other city's league page block access to rosters i'd be pissed. So why not think about people in some other city searching for a transplanted AFDCer in their draft research.

If membership were voicing concerns about privacy and the public rosters then fine. But if we're fixing a 'problem' that doesn't exist and creating an inconvenience to members and potentially others than maybe consider changing it back.


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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby nicemlt » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:43 am

erccarp wrote:Well first i think logging in is a pain, especially from a mobile device. Secondly I know that prior to a draft I might check out another city's league page and rosters/rankings if I'm trying to figure out if a new-to-town player is worth a late round pick. If that other city's league page block access to rosters i'd be pissed. So why not think about people in some other city searching for a transplanted AFDCer in their draft research.

If membership were voicing concerns about privacy and the public rosters then fine. But if we're fixing a 'problem' that doesn't exist and creating an inconvenience to members and potentially others than maybe consider changing it back.


Just considering that more and more every year we have under 18 kids in the league, I think the new privacy is a great thing.

I also like that googling my name is less likely to pull up AFDC things. I think of restraining orders, divorces, etc. If you're hunting to find a steal in a draft and mad because you can't access a random person's rank; you need better things to do in your life.

I didn't know C bracket was so serious. . .
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Re: THREE DAYS LEFT!

Postby peteholiday » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:52 am

erccarp wrote:Well first i think logging in is a pain, especially from a mobile device.
I cannot think of a single thing you are doing that is so urgent that you simply must see a league participant list right this second where you're standing. It takes all of 30 seconds and while I know that, at least nominatively, I work in the mobile IT sector and I may have an unfair advantage in that regard, I've tried this. It doesn't seem that difficult or onerous.

erccarp wrote:Secondly I know that prior to a draft I might check out another city's league page and rosters/rankings if I'm trying to figure out if a new-to-town player is worth a late round pick. If that other city's league page block access to rosters i'd be pissed. So why not think about people in some other city searching for a transplanted AFDCer in their draft research.
My obligation is not to random people from other cities who are looking for "rankings" of players new to their leagues. My obligation is to the AFDC and its members. Also, those people from other cities are perfectly capable of creating new accounts to look at participant lists . . . even if it does make them "pissed". (Additionally, if this sort of thing actually gets you that riled up, it might be something to talk about with a professional.)

erccarp wrote:If membership were voicing concerns about privacy and the public rosters then fine. But if we're fixing a 'problem' that doesn't exist and creating an inconvenience to members and potentially others than maybe consider changing it back.
As it turns out, "membership" has voiced concerns about the privacy of the AFDC membership and participation lists in far greater numbers than the "membership" that is currently complaining about this issue (by an order of magnitude at minimum). My suspicion is that you've never been in a situation where having your name publicly associated with a time and location that you're going to be somewhere has caused problems for you, but given the size of the AFDC, I'd bet a whole lot of money that some of our members have, and having worked with people in those sorts of situations before, I can tell you unequivocally that a) they appreciate this sort of protection and b) they're not likely to come to the forums here to tell you so (or tell you why). So, yeah, we're not "fixing a problem that doesn't exist"; we're trying to prevent problems before they are created.

The core problem is this: privacy only exists until it is compromised and you're suggesting that we compromise this aspect of privacy for over a thousand people, without their consent, simply so you don't have to log in to a website. I'm sorry, Eric, but it's 2012. You should probably be over your irritation with logging into a website by now. But, to be fair, even if you did have a legitimate reason here, I'm hard pressed to think of anything that would trump the privacy concerns listed above.
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